This is a dangerous spot in mid-winter. If an avalanche rips through here and one is unroped, they could be swept off the cliff that is hidden just below the path. Don't hang out in the gully unless you are roped up and ready to rock. So much snow falls down this gully that by spring the entire area where Frank is standing will disappear under twenty feet of snow. That is to say the first step of first pitch is buried.