Alpine > Trad > Sport > Boulder
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Ryan Williams wrote:In fact, this entire thread really shows how little MPers know about climbing.No, this entire thread is an abortion. It doesn't show anything about anybody. |
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Ryan Williams wrote: So I can be a weekend warrior with two weeks of holiday? No thanks. Each of those six trips above will be between 7 and 16 days. AND there is the added bonus of living in a real city with actual things to do besides going to the climbing gym and talking about how cool it is to live in Boulder.Cool... well, just as a heads-up, if you do ever find yourself in Boulder, there's a decent little monocle shop at the west end of Pearl. I don't know about tea and trumpets, tho. |
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Crumpets. I believe it's tea and crumpets, not trumpets. But you never know about the Brits. It might be trumpets with your tea and crumpets. |
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tea and trumpets sounds like it would be relaxing, then really stressful. |
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chufftard wrote: my use of the word 'better' wasn't acurate, more like a trad climber has a broader skill set than a sport climber. one can make the case that sport climbing has a skill set of it's own: crimping repeatedly, climbing through being pumped, keepng hips in with dropknees and backsteps, rest stances etc. but these skills don't change much through the grades unless you are on really steep or really slabby terrain. so, you pull harder on a 12 than an 11 and places like the Red, but the movement is very similar, even into the 13s.I just think that if your sport climb a lot, you will realize that the movement can be very different from route to route. To consistently send hard sport routes on different types of rock, you need to be a well rounded climber. It's not just about pulling harder. As I am writing this though I sort of understand your point. To be a well rounded trad climber you need no be able to do many of the things you listed above and you ALSO need to be able to jam in any size. But you did delete a post before anyone (but me) got to read it. Something about the trad climbers you know on sighting a lot of 11's and never making it further? I don't remember, I should have quoted it before it disappeared. |
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TWK wrote:Crumpets. I believe it's tea and crumpets, not trumpets. But you never know about the Brits. It might be trumpets with your tea and crumpets. And don't forget about the lemon curd. It might be lemon crud, but I think it's curd.I really don't know what any of that stuff is (except for tea, which I do like). I ate bacon and eggs for breakfast today and had Thai for lunch. We're having risotto for dinner. And a monocle? What year do you guys think it is over here? |
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Just out of curiosity Ryan, have you located England's lone dentist yet? I heard he's on the Isle of Man and only open on Tuesday mornings. |
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Ryan Williams wrote: And a monocle? What year do you guys think it is over here?Are you saying this isn't you? Boulder!? Egad! |
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chufftard wrote: i agree with everything you wrote, and it doesn't contradict what i wrote. seems like you enjoy nitpicking my posts to find a bit of gray area to be contentious with.I don't enjoy nitpicking YOUR posts, I just find it hard not to respond sometimes. For some reason your post just got to me the first time I read it. I didn't like how you said that the skills in sport climbing didn't change much through the grades, and that you just have to pull harder to get from 11 to 12. I think that there is a big difference between an 11b and a 12b. I remember when I was new to sport climbing, I could do a mid 5.11 routes in a day just by "pulling harder." It wasn't until I actually learned how to climb that I could send a mid 5.12 in a day. But like I said, once I actually took time to write out a response I understood what you meant. Sometimes I just jump online for a min or two while I'm waiting for my tea and crumpets to be ready - I probably shouldn't be posting or replying to anyone if I don't have time to do it properly. Sorry. Cheerio! |
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Can we at least say that the list is descending in technical and mental difficulty and ascending in physical difficulty? |
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I bet that J. Long guy who didn't finish his knot and decked is a real noob. Imagine that guy climbing outside! Or even worse, on gear. Everyone forgot about aid climbers, what about the ice mongrels! Those sissy people like C. Anker can't even climb a v7! |
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thomas wisdom wrote:I bet that J. Long guy who didn't finish his knot and decked is a real noob. Imagine that guy climbing outside! Or even worse, on gear. Everyone forgot about aid climbers, what about the ice mongrels! Those sissy people like C. Anker can't even climb a v7!When I saw this thread was still alive I clicked to the end, just to see how far the thread had stooped. Pretty low. |
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I think we are talking about several different types of things here when we ascribe value and rank to particular types of climbing. |
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Jon Zucco wrote: It's pretty hard to have a debate when we haven't even begun to define our terms...So is it crumpets or trumpets? |
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matt davies wrote: So is it crumpets or trumpets?This is an improvement;) |
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It's crumpets. I've never had one but they are probably something like a biscuit, which is actually a cookie. |
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"Although in the real world, I THINK "having tea and crumpets" is slang for some pretty raunchy sexual antics." |
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Ryan Williams wrote:It's crumpets. I've never had one but they are probably something like a biscuit, which is actually a cookie. Although in the real world, I THINK "having tea and crumpets" is slang for some pretty raunchy sexual antics.And you think America is a weird place? Regardless, I say tea and trumpets, with a biscuit that is actually a cookie, while bumping uglies, sounds like a good time. Might be tough to keep that monocle in place though. |