White Gas on MSR stove
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So some MSR stoves (or other brands as well) use white gas only. After reading through search results from Google, I'm not sure if I really know which are considered 'white gas'. |
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roy buan wrote:So some MSR stoves (or other brands as well) use white gas only. After reading through search results from Google, I'm not sure if I really know which are considered 'white gas'. I recently got the Simmerlite (white gas only). Are these good? - Denatured alcohol - Lighter Fluid - unleaded gasoline - kerosene (I think not) - rubbing alcohol - Others? what are the disadvantages?Not sure I understand your question, "are these good?" You bought a stove which uses white gas. Pretty simple: use white gas. Those other fuels aren't white gas. That said, I ran unleaded in my Simmerlite. Not recommended by MSR. Disadvantages are the stove isn't designed to burn those other fuels. |
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ok to clarify, "are these good" asks: |
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roy buan wrote:ok to clarify, "are these good" asks: 1. are those above white gas? 2. are they good substitutes. white gas is called many things in diff countries. In japan for example, white gas = unleaded gasoline. The branded ones (like coleman fuel) is naphtha if i'm not mistaken. But some sources/forums say lighter fluid is also naphtha. Denatured alcohol is ethanol with additives. Rubbing alcohol is ethanol or isopropyl with water. So with all the info in the net, I'm getting more confused, which is the white gas that MSR is talking about. Out traveling and into more remote areas, outdoor-brands of white gas isn't always available. i tried looking for an email address in cascade designs website. can't seem to find it. Anyone knows what their customer service email is? thanksNo, none of those are white gas. No, none of them are good substitutes. cascadedesigns.com/msr/FAQ/… They list what different countries refer to as "white gas" as an item on that FAQ. Also, they list which white gas (Coleman, etc) are available in the U.S. Like I said, I've run unleaded gas in mine, but, they wouldn't recommend it. Probably the closest thing you have on your list that would sort of work. The stove is designed very spefically to use a certain type of fuel. The jet, the heating coil, pump, etc are all built around white gas for that Simmerlite. The other fuels won't work and/or could be pretty dangerous to try. If you're in a remote area and white gas isn't available...then, I guess I wouldn't recommend taking a Simmerlite. Edit to add: cascadedesigns.com/Home/Con… |
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Ron - could just go get yourself the MSR Whisperlite International for a few more bucks and not worry about it and just burn whatever you have available. The diff is a small cleaner inside the jet and a wick in the bottom. |
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thank you for your inputs (and the link to the email add). I've seen the FAQs earlier and they are just language translations, not really explaining what the composition is. |
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roy buan wrote:Anyway, I'll email cascade designs. I hope I won't get a corporate "do not use anything other than white gas" type of answer from them.My bet is you will. I've asked them in person. Simmerlite is my favorite white gas stove. Runs great. Discontinued? Let us know what they say! Cheers. |
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Have used diesel, unleaded, charcoal lighter and they all work. |
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Here is the response from MSR: |
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Wow... That was a really thoughtful response. Thanks for sharing! |