ClimbX with an interesting new product...
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Just got this via email from ClimbX this AM,, but can't find it anywhere listed online. Guess we need to email or call them for an order! Looks nice, price sure is great! |
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Yeah, but who the heck is rocking a beefy 9.8 these days anyway? |
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Me? I'm glad to still be hauling a 10.2 or 10.5 all the time. No 9'ers for me yet. |
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I'm on a 10.7 most of the time, due to a wicked online deal. |
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I'm calling for one, as soon as they wake up in Vegas and get to work. |
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You should write a review once you've played around with it a little. |
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I, for one, am very skeptical. The sentence "more Aircraft Grade Aluminum than plastic" means nothing to me - more than what? It's not like the Grigri is made of mostly plastic. |
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Exactly my point, Ming. The handle and the bottom of the GriGri are plastic. Neither of those things bear any weight in the event of a fall, and if either of them broke, the GriGri would still work. |
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3 reasons not to buy from ClimbX/Madrock: |
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Looks like Climb X has stepped up from ripping off the junkiest shit on the market to ripping off the best. |
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Josh'es 3 reasons... spot on... Ray is also right on.. |
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"You will find that the X-dream jams less than comparable smaller models out there." |
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Still no voice mail set up, or any response to calls yet at 9AM Vegas time. Guess they are not interested? |
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So the worst sin here isn't that ClimbX has capitalized on an expired patent. That happens all the time and after the patent holder has had an exclusive right to the design for 20 years you would think that a new version would make significant improvements. Only time will tell if this is the case with the X-dream. |
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Malcolm Daly wrote:So the worst sin here isn't that ClimbX has capitalized on an expired patent. That happens all the time and after the patent holder has had an exclusive right to the design for 20 years you would think that a new version would make significant improvements. Only time will tell if this is the case with the X-dream. The sin here is that ClimbX has called this an auto-belay device. It's not. The climbing gear manufacturers, through the UIAA Safety Commission, all decided to eliminate the term auto in anything related to belaying. There's just too much baggage associated with that word and their have been way too many accidents due to disfunctional "auto" features on these devices. The proper term is locking-assist (Trango Cinch) or assisted braking (Petzl Grigri 2). Please delete the word "auto" from your climbing gear vocabulary. Climb safe. MalcolmYou'd think that there would be a more lucrative market to rip off other people's ideas than climbing gear though. |
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I was gonna post something about the history of ClimbX, but I just don't care enough. If you really want to find out why they are a sleazy company you can look it up yourself. Suffice it to say that they are guilty of more than simply manufacturing products based on recently expired patents. |
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Taylor Ogden wrote:I was gonna post something about the history of ClimbX, but I just don't care enough. If you really want to find out why they are a sleazy company you can look it up yourself. Suffice it to say that they are guilty of more than simply manufacturing products based on recently expired patents.Light reading to that end |
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I find it very interesting that they explicitly say "the climbing community gets to benefit from a patent's expiration". |
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Malcolm Daly wrote:The climbing gear manufacturers, through the UIAA Safety Commission, all decided to eliminate the term auto in anything related to belaying. ... Please delete the word "auto" from your climbing gear vocabulary. Climb safe. MalcolmHow does this apply to the autobelays in gyms? |