Oak Flat News
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If you are new to the issue, or maybe even a veteran, the link below may be of interest to shed light on some of the past controversies involved with a potential Oak Flat privatization. |
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One thing that is definitely needed in this case is greater community involvement. Without a large number of people responding to the calls to action posted here we are less likely to be heard by the folks making decisions. |
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Unity is definitely a refreshing idea among our community. |
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All is not quiet on the Oak Flat Preservation efforts: |
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More disquietude over Resolution's methods and plans: |
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And then there's the politician quietly hoping to transfer revered public recreation lands to private hands as part of his legacy. |
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And 4: Then there's a US House of Representatives member from Arizona, Jeff Flake, sounding eager to step into Sen. Kyl's soon to be empty shoes and take over where he will leave off. Aside from currently vying to take over for Kyl in the Senate, Flake is also a former Washington lobbyist for the mining interests that, unbeknownst to him he has said, included an Iranian stake in a uranium operation now owned by Rio Tinto, Resolution Copper's majority owner. |
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Pinal County EPA report
This is a very interesting report recently released. I think this speaks to the air quality in West Pinal County currently and ever more toward the dangers of damaging the air even further if the tailings are able to just sit on the corner of US60 and Florence Jct turnoff. One bad dust storm coming West and the Valley won't be able to breathe. |
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'Cause in a bad dust storm the rest of the desert isn't covered in dirt that blows into Phoenix? |
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ClimbandMine wrote:'Cause in a bad dust storm the rest of the desert isn't covered in dirt that blows into Phoenix? The dry portions of tailing ponds can be (and are) covered in a variety of coagulants that significantly reduce the dust coming off them, relative to the surroundings. The mine I worked at for the last 7 years used a helicopter to spray the beach with an algae-based dust suppressant every spring just before it dried out.No offense but I think think tailing dust is likely to be more dangerous than soil. The fact that we already have dust in the area doesn't change the fact that any sane person does not want the tailing pile near them. It's nice to hear that some means to mitigate the tailing dust can be employed, but I don't want to rely on RCM's word that they will eliminate the health risks associated with this waste pile. |
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I used to drive through Globe for many years and always marveled how the dust from the huge tailing dump would just blow up and down Globe. The cows were placed there rather recently. They have donated a lot of shit to the mine's cause. |
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manuel rangel wrote:I used to drive through Globe for many years and always marveled how the dust from the huge tailing dump would just blow up and down Globe. The cows were placed there rather recently. They have donated a lot of shit to the mine's cause. The last thing we need is a huge dry pile of ore soaked in crap we don't need to breathe.Is cow shit better or worse than human shit to manufacture topsoil in a place were none exists? How about pig or sheep shit? Are you sure the tailings piles hadn't been capped long ago and it wasn't just clay and dust from failed planting (topsoil) blowing off? |
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Geir wrote: No offense but I think think tailing dust is likely to be more dangerous than soil. The fact that we already have dust in the area doesn't change the fact that any sane person does not want the tailing pile near them. It's nice to hear that some means to mitigate the tailing dust can be employed, but I don't want to rely on RCM's word that they will eliminate the health risks associated with this waste pile.They why do people in towns like Green Valley MOVE IN right next to pre-existing mine sites / tailings facilities like Sierrita? Its not like the mines are hiding. Its not like Magma wasn't there before either. |
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ClimbandMine wrote: They why do people in towns like Green Valley MOVE IN right next to pre-existing mine sites / tailings facilities like Sierrita? Its not like the mines are hiding. Its not like Magma wasn't there before either.My guess is that the billboards on the highways that proclaim "Houses from the $120s" actually work. It's sad, but most people just don't know any better. |
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ClimbandMine wrote: They why do people in towns like Green Valley MOVE IN right next to pre-existing mine sites / tailings facilities like Sierrita? Its not like the mines are hiding. Its not like Magma wasn't there before either.You have a point here, my statement was too broad. I should perhaps qualify my it: few sane people would knowingly choose to have a big wastepile of tailing next to their home. I am all for a reasoned approach, though: if you can provide an exhaustive review of unbiased, controlled studies demonstrating that these waste products have no health risks than I will reconsider my position. |
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"Are you sure the tailings piles hadn't been capped long ago and it wasn't just clay and dust from failed planting (topsoil) blowing off?" |
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there is a sheriff posted at the Magma Mine road, don't plan on climbing at most places around Queen Creek for a while. Atlantis and the Pond is OK, but US60 could be shut down if the fire gets much worse. |