Can we all just agree Bear Grylls is a giant tool?

Billy Young wrote:Bear and his antics have contributed to the death of at least one person: lasvegassun.com/news/2010/s…;>> I don't fully understand what this exactly has to do with Man vs. Wild. It's bear's fault because this person liked his show?

Tyson Anderson wrote: I said "contributed to" not caused because there were many other factors at play. Sadly, some people do take his show seriously and he offers them many bad ideas about how to handle wilderness situations.

I can accept that, but he should also make it clear what he's doing is totally staged, the only thing he's representing professionally is being an entertainer, and that what he is doing is solely for the entertainment purposes of a camera audience.

No disrespect, but I'm keeping my opinion.

No one should be getting their survival training from a TV show. Period.

Bear and his show was an inspiration to me. I am afraid of heights and I started rock climbing partly to combat those fears. Since then, I am so happy for all the fun times I have had climbing with friends.

Anything that gets kids to turn off their video games and get outside of the house and doing something is okay by me.

I'm not going to sit here and site stuff to compare but,

I read an article a while back where a lost boy left pieces of his shirt or something on tree branches to direct the rescue team in his direction. A midst all the exciting entertainment stuff are some real tips that, just from memory, someone might use in real world bad situation. (ie. arranging stones or sticks to point in the direction you traveled, leaving scraps so rescuers can follow your path, fashioning snow shoes out of branches)

Peter Franzen wrote:I honestly didn't see too much in that video that was egregiously tool-ish. A great TV producer and camera crew could take any of us out on our best days and have a finished product a few weeks later that make us look just as bad, or worse. The next time you're chilling to some reggae and smoking a cig at the bottom of a climb try to imagine how ridiculous it'd look in high-definition slow motion with a voiceover. So fine-- he TR'd a big route in the desert with a film crew. That's more than most weekend-warrior climbers will ever do. The guy may be totally over the top on his show, but there isn't too much doubt that he has a legitimate background in doing some pretty out-there stuff.

Can we all agree on anything?
We can't even seem to all agree that climbing is great.

I think we can all agree that we can't all seem to agree on anything! :)

+1 Bear Grylls is an asshat.

I don't care what the dictionary says, I refuse to believe "disorientating" is actually a real word.

You can watch the "behind the scenes" here: theadrenalist.com/promotion…

Of interest to me were some of the things they say regarding the prep work:

"Brad's gotta build his path through this scramble section to make sure he can move as fast as Bear with the steadycam, so that might take some prep, leveling some rock and stuff through there."

"The problem with the top is it's so loose, so we're having to pull lots of different little features to make it safe"

Sounds like they don't give a shit about how they leave the rock...

Christian wrote:I don't care what the dictionary says, I refuse to believe "disorientating" is actually a real word.

His chalkbag is clipped to the harness with a carabiner. C'mon man!

Ah yes, the Bear Grylls debate...largely decided because of his termination with Discovery...but I couldn't agree more:

"Bear Grylls--Descent into Douchery," posted Nov. 30, 2010 on Elevation Outdoors.

elevationoutdoors.com/blogs…

pat vernon wrote:This one is pretty entertaining!

I love the interview set for the bouldering video. It looked like Hard Copy or Inside Edition. I kept expecting a story about Kim Kardasian. But really, where is the deodorant being applied to underarms? Where are the ladies smiling? And some cigarette smoking and broom mustaches for that retro-70s ad look would be awesome.

Stich wrote: It's what idiots say instead of disorienting. But then those same idiots probably pronounce aluminum al-lu-min-ni-um.

The orange pants were pretty cool too, where can I get me some of those?

nhbrooks wrote:http://www.mountainproject.com/v/rigor-mortis/105718033 Here is the route info. I wonder what it goes at if you free it.