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I'm always tired

Christian RodaoBack · · Tucson, AZ · Joined Jul 2005 · Points: 1,486
kBobby wrote: I really hope he doesn't want to violate them.
Lol! Read your leases carefully kiddywinks...
matt davies · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2007 · Points: 25
Joe Huggins wrote: Yeah, I hear ya; but for me, the perfect cup is an aged Celebes(Sulawesi)or Sumatra roasted Full City and made in a French Press with a ridiculous amount of product. That's just me,I ben' abusin' fur a wiyl... EDIT-In Eldo, there's a famous route from the '80s;"Coffee Break With Joe"...I'm the Joe
... and a connoisseur to boot!
€ $t0& 960 €® · · Colorado · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 55

Im never tired...only after waking up grumpy at 3pm after a night shift. I think all tiredness is in cortisol levels...and you have to hydrate enough. Just my opinion
p.s. my dad is back from Africa so he will be posting now. Don't blow my cover please.

Joe Huggins · · Grand Junction · Joined Oct 2001 · Points: 105
kBobby wrote: I really hope he doesn't want to violate them.
Thanks for catching that and running with it. Remember-together, we can make jokes!
Ray Pinpillage · · West Egg · Joined Jul 2010 · Points: 180
Mitch Zimmerman wrote:Im never tired...only after waking up grumpy at 3pm after a night shift. I think all tiredness is in cortisol levels...and you have to hydrate enough. Just my opinion p.s. my dad is back from Africa so he will be posting now. Don't blow my cover please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4lnjxkY
€ $t0& 960 €® · · Colorado · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 55
Peter Stokes · · Them Thar Hills · Joined Apr 2009 · Points: 150
kBobby wrote: I really hope he doesn't want to violate them.
I never violate my tenants before noon
Joe Huggins · · Grand Junction · Joined Oct 2001 · Points: 105
Ray Pinpillage wrote: youtube.com/watch?v=2Z4m4ln…
That was FA! (fucking awesome)
Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425

I suffer from the same thing and at 37 I don't think it's normal either. I mentioned it to the doctor the other day and he was mildly dimisive about it, so for the momement I'm trying more of a lifestyle change.

Quitting caffeine is a great idea, as I'm kind of stuck in that cycle as well. Not as much as the OP, but yeah 2 cups of coffee and a double rockstar. I've recently started Valerian root to help me sleep, and it seems to work. Stinks really bad and sometimes I get odd dreams but I sleep deeper.

Also "trying" to reduce stress. I eat pretty healthy as well and work out / exercise 5-7 days a week, but I think I might lean more to the vegan side of things and massively reduce my alcohol intake (sadly).

We'll see how this all goes, if not back to the doctor. But yeah guessing why is just throwing a dart over your shoulder. It could be anything, from simple allergies to a real issue.

Jeremy Hand · · Northern VA · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 100

I appreciate every response and will go through the last couple of pages and respond. I haven't been to the doc yet. Get off my back. I'm also thinking it most likely is a thyroid problem but I've been having a couple of other symptoms the past couple days. If I die I'll let you know by not responding.

Also I'm going to start running daily and pick up some more of my Green Vibrance next paycheck. I'm trying to cut back on the caffeine and don't drink any already past noon or so. Running early in the morning is a possibility but I doubt I am going to get up at 4 or so to do it. But I'll give it a try.

JLP wrote:I'm always stoned. I started smoking a ton of weed a few weeks back, but I'm pretty sure that's not the problem. Can someone help me?
You, sir, are an idiot. Please stop trolling.

Aerili wrote: I am totally fine with mother earth taking back you and only you. My problem is that when your non-vaccinated ass comes down with tuberculosis, mumps, typhoid, yellow fever, or things like that, you take other people with you.
I always have a question for people who bring up claims like this... if you're vaccinated and I'm not vaccinated and I contract some disease that you've been vaccinated for... why would you contract it? Isn't that proof that vaccinations are not beneficial to your health and only put yourself at risk to adverse side affects?
That makes no sense.

Also Why would ANYONE want the HPV vaccine? Go look up how many children have either died or had crazy side affects.

The FDA is in bed with the pharmaceutical business... go look at how many of the FDA board members used to work for pharm corporations... that is why it takes them 6 years to pull a drug off the shelves that has killed people from the start.

Dexter you need to stop flaming people about ignorance and read up some yourself. You're mention to psych meds is clearly evidence of your lack of knowledge on the subject. Anti depressants have been shown to be no more effective than a placebo. Psychotropic are prescribed for everything and to everyone now. We'll all be amazed to find out what they say in the new DSM that they're printing next year. If a child shows too much energy, short attention span, or anything of that sort they'll be prescribed drugs. Are you sad that your parents just died in a horrific car accident? You're obviously in the need of some xanax and zoloft. Modern western science has MANY benefits and has made medicine exponentially better but at this point in time all pharmaceuticals, especially in the U.S., are for profit.

Joe Huggins wrote:I was feeling progressively crappier for years. Finally went to the doc; she sent me to the endocrinologist. Turns out I have an autoimmune disease-"polyendocrinopathy", (say it three times, fast). Now, I take drugs to treat it-feel pretty good. Fucking know it all doctors!
Thanks for your response! I'm hoping that it is nothing serious and I'm wishing the best to you and thank lord they have those drugs for you; some things just can't be treated without prescriptions.

wankel7 wrote: WTF dude...that is an insane amount of caffeine. You have two problems to solve. The being tired one and your unhealthy addiction to caffeine. Just wondering...when you stand up after sitting for a while do you feel light headed?
I typically don't drink that much lol. And no, I haven't experienced any light headedness in quite some time. I used to when I was younger and I mentioned it to the doctor and he said it was normal for people my age to do that, something about constricted blood flow from sitting with bent knees and the rush to your head when standing quickly.

I do take FUKITALL on occasion... more so when climbing. You can always tell because I'm not afraid of the highballs anymore or the soloing. Gotta love that stuff!

So to kinda recap and clarify a bit.

I don't typically take psychotropic drugs and I don't get drunk but on a rare occasion. I do not smoke weed. I occasionally take a drag from a cigarette or a dip so nicotine levels shouldn't be the issue. I am going to start running daily so that I get better circulation and consistent exercise. I'm going to lay off hard training for a bit (hopefully!). I do not have a problem sleeping a 'full-night' or going to sleep and typically sleep 7+ hours. If I stand in one spot or sit for a few minutes I begin yawning constantly and feel drowsy. I'm going to restart my vitamin regiment and get back on my Green Vibrance powder (YUM). It could be stress/depression related as I do lean more toward the introvert and will overthink a lot of things but at the same time this is the happiest time in my life as I've recently (within the past year) found my soulmate (so cheesy sounding). I appreciate everyone's response, even if it was a troll, and always appreciate a good debate. I'm thinking its a thyroid problem.
If anyone has anymore questions or anything else to say feel free to continue the dialogue! I hope everyone had a great weekend and Easter.
Holla holla
€ $t0& 960 €® · · Colorado · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 55

I highly doubt its thyroid do you have other symptoms: wt gain heart palpitations. I am not diagnosing but low thyroid is affecting women past 40 yo who had kids and you are neither. Psychotropics and antidepressants can do wonders when prescribed and taken as directed so do benzos. Your age is when most psych illnesses get diagnosed. Not trying to scare you but go see a doc honestly. Hope its not MS or Lupus but the sooner you get on meds in either case the better off your chances are at going into remission. Best of luck!

Scott McMahon · · Boulder, CO · Joined Feb 2006 · Points: 1,425

One thing I've noticed with my own body too is that I need to go to bed at a "certain" time. If I go to bed at 10 I feel much better, but if I push it to lets say 10:30 it's harder for me to fall asleep. The key is finding out what time is for you.

Also my doc recommended no reading (he does it though) or watching TV in bed. The logic behind this is to train your mind and body to know when you go to bed it's for sleeping, and not for chilling.

Basically nothing in the bed besides sleep and magic making.

€ $t0& 960 €® · · Colorado · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 55
Scott McMahon wrote:One thing I've noticed with my own body too is that I need to go to bed at a "certain" time. If I go to bed at 10 I feel much better, but if I push it to lets say 10:30 it's harder for me to fall asleep. The key is finding out what time is for you. Also my doc recommended no reading (he does it though) or watching TV in bed. The logic behind this is to train your mind and body to know when you go to bed it's for sleeping, and not for chilling. Basically nothing in the bed besides sleep and magic making.
The kid is 21 yo! Common! Its a hint if depression I say especially after reading his last post he is too lean to have a sleep apnea. The advice you got is geared towards middle aged group.
AJS · · Boulder, CO · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 25
Jeremy Hand wrote: Also Why would ANYONE want the HPV vaccine? Go look up how many children have either died or had crazy side affects. The FDA is in bed with the pharmaceutical business...
Not sure where you got that information, but wikipedia seems to think the opposite: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPV_v…

As to your question about vaccines:
A lot of the things we get vaccinated for affect children much more strongly than adults (often leading to death). A good example is whooping cough (pertusis). If you get that as an adult, it's not horrible, but if a child gets it then it's bad news. And, that leads to the problem with not getting vaccinated yourself -- if you have it, it's no big deal, but you could easily pass it on to a child who isn't vaccinated yet.

I'm all for not taking lots of drugs that affect the central nervous system -- you mentioned for example, Xanex and Prozac -- but really vaccines definitely fall into the 'some things can't be treated without prescriptions' category. I think with a bit more research you'd agree.

Cheers.
€ $t0& 960 €® · · Colorado · Joined Mar 2012 · Points: 55

HPV vaccine is a hoax! Do you know how many strands of that virus there are? Its everywhere and mutates constantly. Its your immune system. I saw a show about a man who had warts all over his body caused by HPV because of a genetic immune disease. Btw most cases of positive HPV go away by themselves and cause unnecessary procedures. Cervical cancer can be caused by HPV but im sure there is more than just the virus present. In your case being a male your chances of getting a cervical cancer are next to nill

Jeremy Hand · · Northern VA · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 100
AJS wrote: Not sure where you got that information, but wikipedia seems to think the opposite: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPV_v… As to your question about vaccines: A lot of the things we get vaccinated for affect children much more strongly than adults (often leading to death). A good example is whooping cough (pertusis). If you get that as an adult, it's not horrible, but if a child gets it then it's bad news. And, that leads to the problem with not getting vaccinated yourself -- if you have it, it's no big deal, but you could easily pass it on to a child who isn't vaccinated yet. I'm all for not taking lots of drugs that affect the central nervous system -- you mentioned for example, Xanex and Prozac -- but really vaccines definitely fall into the 'some things can't be treated without prescriptions' category. I think with a bit more research you'd agree. Cheers.
http://sanevax.org/vaers-hpv-vaccine-adverse-injury-reports-through-february-13-2012/

cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Vacci…

VAERS is where people go to report adverse reactions from vaccines to the cdc... I'll trust it more so than wikipedia. And from your post I'm going to assume(gosh I hate doing this) that you've never heard of VAERS. Many people haven't so just think about how many cases go unreported or doctors don't correlate with the vaccination... :\

Earlier developed vaccinations seemed to be a lot safer, the new stuff is just an easy way for pharma to mass produce and administer something... think about how much of the monies is made from a nation wide vaccination. Not all vaccinations are bad, not all pharmaceuticals are bad, but everything is about money; plenty of people(majority?) in this country will do anything for that almighty dollar, whether it may be deemed moral or not.
Will S · · Joshua Tree · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 1,061

Get off the caffeine, yes. But from personal experience, I'd advise a very gradual taper.

I did a cold turkey from a regular, daily level of caffeine slightly larger than your 7 cups + 5hr. Raging headaches, all over bodyache, nausea, sweating...kinda like the flu but worse and without stomach issues. 3 days of this, laying on the couch, miserable and unable to function.

Quitting caffeine was the best decision I ever made from a health/diet standpoint. I immediately slept better than ever before, wake up feeling refreshed, etc. Also, try to keep a regular sleep schedule. After too many years of college, grad school etc, I was used to going out on weekends, staying up way later than the weekdays, then sleeping in.

Jeremy Hand · · Northern VA · Joined Feb 2012 · Points: 100
Will S wrote:Get off the caffeine, yes. But from personal experience, I'd advise a very gradual taper. I did a cold turkey from a regular, daily level of caffeine slightly larger than your 7 cups + 5hr. Raging headaches, all over bodyache, nausea, sweating...kinda like the flu but worse and without stomach issues. 3 days of this, laying on the couch, miserable and unable to function. Quitting caffeine was the best decision I ever made from a health/diet standpoint. I immediately slept better than ever before, wake up feeling refreshed, etc. Also, try to keep a regular sleep schedule. After too many years of college, grad school etc, I was used to going out on weekends, staying up way later than the weekdays, then sleeping in.
Sounds brutal man! Yeah my caffeine intake isn't typically that high but I'd say 2-3 cups has become a good daily average. I'm trying to taper off and some days I don't even need it. I appreciate your response, take it easy.
APBT1976 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2011 · Points: 55
Will S wrote:Get off the caffeine, yes. But from personal experience, I'd advise a very gradual taper. I did a cold turkey from a regular, daily level of caffeine slightly larger than your 7 cups + 5hr. Raging headaches, all over bodyache, nausea, sweating...kinda like the flu but worse and without stomach issues. 3 days of this, laying on the couch, miserable and unable to function. Quitting caffeine was the best decision I ever made from a health/diet standpoint. I immediately slept better than ever before, wake up feeling refreshed, etc. Also, try to keep a regular sleep schedule. After too many years of college, grad school etc, I was used to going out on weekends, staying up way later than the weekdays, then sleeping in.
Best advice ever!

I have given up the evil heavenly bean more than once for moths on end. Everything the poster above claims is 110% true.

I think it is about time for me give up the bean again myself. Do it over a weeks time though. Start by cutting your intake in half for a two or three days then go to one cup a day for a week then just stop.

I think it may be time to do the 2 week apple juice psyllium husk cleans followed by giving up any processed food/caffein/alcohol/refined sugar till winter rolls around and the extra lbs keep you warm on the ice.

Worst two weeks of your life but you feel so good when it s done. And the shit that comes outa your body scares you enough that it seems like how could i have allowed that stuff in me in the first place. And i never wanna put anything in me that makes that again...
APBT1976 · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Nov 2011 · Points: 55

P.S.

This advice comes from a guy that just drank a full french press and a half of rocket fuel and has been every day all dam winter..

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

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