The pillar is in the middle of this ravine gully more than half way up it next to that big outcrop of rock right of it. It's not the ice on the right side of the rock outcrop. It has to be the longest climb on the upper left side. The big iced up wall in the middle is confusing me. It doesn't matter this is the area the climb exist. This has been a very lean snow year, so far. We're in a drought and that means what is usually nothing or vera-glass has come in thicker than S%$t. The ravine gully below is devoid of snow and iced up. The pillar may be in a very weakened state from this drought.