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	Rick Blair · Mar 29, 2011 · Denver · Joined Oct 2007 · Points: 266 Mike Morin wrote:I hate to contribute to this thread drift, but well here I go. What if it had been the land owner's windshield? Land owner has us by the short hairs, buy him the windshield, does not matter who's wrong or right. Monty wrote:Yet I didn't blame him for letting his dog sit at the base. Replace "dog" with "toddler", would you blame a parent for letting a toddler frolic below a climbing route? Tom, See what you started? 0 Flag Quote
	slim · Mar 30, 2011 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2004 · Points: 1,103 monty, you showed a lot of class and did the best you could for an unfortunate situation. 0 Flag Quote
	Ralph Kolva · Mar 30, 2011 · Pine, CO · Joined Jun 2006 · Points: 210 Looking for ethical, responsible parties to climb with. Monty, if you ever need a partner I would be happy to tie-in with you. RockinGal, well, uh, never mind. 0 Flag Quote
	Buff Johnson · Mar 30, 2011 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2005 · Points: 1,145 Rick Blair wrote: Replace "dog" with "toddler", It's all fun and games until the "cat" gets tagged 0 Flag Quote
	matt.l.b · Mar 30, 2011 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 25 0 Flag Quote
	Phil Lauffen · Mar 30, 2011 · Innsbruck, AT · Joined Jun 2008 · Points: 3,098 Mark Nelson wrote: It's all fun and games until the "cat" gets tagged http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ribyvM_MLog 0 Flag Quote
	Tom Pierce · Mar 30, 2011 · Englewood, CO · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 0 Rick: Yeah, looks like I unintentionally ignited an ethics debate. Interesting... FWIW, we'll go and unless a local (not the owner) gets too shrill about the private property issue we should have a good time. If the owner objects we'll politely leave. Probably also do a quick litter pick-up, just the right thing to do. I'm pretty sick of climbing sites being shut down, esp in the Pine area. Couldn't hurt. -Tom 0 Flag Quote
	Monty · Mar 30, 2011 · Golden, CO · Joined Mar 2006 · Points: 3,525 Tom Pierce wrote:Rick: Yeah, looks like I unintentionally ignited an ethics debate. Interesting... FWIW, we'll go and unless a local (not the owner) gets too shrill about the private property issue we should have a good time. If the owner objects we'll politely leave. Probably also do a quick litter pick-up, just the right thing to do. I'm pretty sick of climbing sites being shut down, esp in the Pine area. Couldn't hurt. -Tom You can always offer to buy them a pitcher at Bucksnort! 0 Flag Quote
	Buff Johnson · Mar 30, 2011 · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2005 · Points: 1,145 Tom, as long as you don't go to squat or the elephant/sphinx, you'll be fine. (Tom, I of course saved my 5000th post just for you!) 0 Flag Quote
	AJS · Mar 30, 2011 · Boulder, CO · Joined Mar 2008 · Points: 25 dailycamera.com/news/ci_177… More thread drift! 0 Flag Quote
	Tom Pierce · Mar 30, 2011 · Englewood, CO · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 0 Mark Nelson wrote:Tom, as long as you don't go to squat or the elephant/sphinx, you'll be fine. Hey Mark, hope all is well. Yeah, I know Squat and esp Sphinx are off limits. Frustrating, I loved climbing at both. -Tom 0 Flag Quote
	Crag Dweller · Mar 30, 2011 · New York, NY · Joined Jul 2006 · Points: 125 RockinGal wrote:I totally believe in taking responsibility for my actions and do so to a greater degree than most people... No, you don't. Edit to Add: I hope the folks whose windshield you broke are reading this. 0 Flag Quote
	Mike Morin · Mar 30, 2011 · Glen, NH · Joined Nov 2007 · Points: 1,350 Rick Blair wrote: Land owner has us by the short hairs, buy him the windshield, does not matter who's wrong or right. In my opinion buying or splitting a new windshield would be the right thing to do, regardless of who it is. What I was trying to point out is if the action taken by RockinGal had been directed towards the landowner or a neighbor there could have been serious consequences for the climbing community as a whole. 0 Flag Quote