Tingey's Terror Retro-bolts

This post was originally a comment in Tingey's Terror

Recently a bolted belay station was added to the BASE of this climb...the start of the first pitch. For over 45 years climbers have belayed here without these convenience bolts. I think these are unnecessary, since you can hike off from here.

What's next? Bushwack crack? or the Green A? Do we need to see these bolts everywhere? Can't climbers just enjoy a few climbs in their natural state? Could the fellow who placed these, PLEASE REMOVE THEM?

Hello,

My name is Rob.

I have observed all types of behavior in many different places, and areas. I tried draw a line of "ethics" where it fitted my wants/needs, in turn disregarding others. I fought in Rock Canyon about a great deal of things, closely related to this topic of "useless" bolts.

Let people to what they may, don't use the bolts if you don't like them. If it is a guide using them, guiding has changed, people sue, let the guide use them. I see this so often in the Canyoning world, new bolts in canyons all the time, far more than in climbing. I choose not to use new bolts, that I don't agree with.

In the grand scheme of things, what we do as climbers to the rock in the next 500 years of "grid bolting" will be gone in 5,000.

Nature will sort it all out long after all of us throw our egos around over the internet.

Rob Schwarzmann

Sir Camsalot wrote:...and never having pulled a gun on your climbing partner for using the wrong belay commands...

"Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a shit about the rules? Mark it zero!" -Walter Sobchak

I sure as hell am naive. But those necessary punches will never get thrown over the internet or on ninja missions in the dark.

nor would an agreement take place (however unlikely that may be)

Keep your friends close...

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Sean Wolf wrote: "Has the whole world gone crazy? Am I the only one around here who gives a shit about the rules? Mark it zero!" -Walter Sobchak

+1!