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New guidebook to the New River Gorge

Submitted By: Nick Wilder on Mar 2, 2010


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Wolverine Publishing, one of Mountain Project's sponsors, has a new color guidebook to the New River Gorge, written by local climber Mike Williams.

The new book is a 548 page monster with comprehensive content for the "Tri-Gorge Region": the New River Gorge, the Meadow River Gorge, and the Gauley River (including Summersville Lake).

You can preview the book at Wolverine Publishing and pre-order it for $32.00. The book should be generally available around March 22, and then it will cost $40 retail.


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By Chris treggE
Administrator
From: Madison, WI
Mar 3, 2010

Any word on the iPhone version release Nick?

By Dave Pegg
Mar 3, 2010

The iPhone version will be for the new (3rd) edition of our Red River Gorge guidebook. The app should be available in May. If it's well received we'll roll out the New River Gorge on this platform too.

By Nick Wilder
Site Landlord
From: The Bubble
Mar 3, 2010

In the mean time, the Mountain Project iPhone app is pretty handy for those locations where you have a signal...

See the iPhone link on the footer of any MP page if you haven't seen it.

By jarthur
From: Westminster, CO
Mar 4, 2010

Forgive my ignorance if that is the case, but as far as iPhone apps go don't you have to have a signal in order for this to be effective? Since it's an app and not a download how is this going to work in places like Rifle, Red River Gorge, or the New River Gorge where I'm pretty sure the last time I checked my phone didn't work. I'm sure you guys have thought about this, but I haven't seen any mention of whether, or not it's going to work in areas without a signal. Especially AT&T whose coverage is terrible in the first place. BTW I'm a structural engineer for the telecommunications industry so I'm well aware of companies such as Sprint, Verizon, T-Mobile, Cricket, and AT&T and where they are doing new build outs since the company I work for, me especially designs and upgrades all of their towers.

Just curious.

By Chris treggE
Administrator
From: Madison, WI
Mar 4, 2010

Great question. I assumed this would be something you would download and have on the phone's memory so you wouldn't need a signal. I actually just have an iPod Touch so it would only work for me if it were downloadable.

A while ago I posted how to put mountainproject PDFs on an iPod Touch in case anyone cares. A way to carry mp beta (the "miniguides") with you on your iPod Touch or iPhone.

mountainproject.com/v/mountain_project_news/mp_pdfs_on_your_>>>

By COEveryman
Mar 6, 2010

Dave

I just ordered the book on your website, but was wondering if you would be willing to offer people who buy the New River Gorge book a discount on the iPhone app. Sharpend has done something of this sort with their PDF books.

Those of us who have climbing guide addiction issues would really appreciate it.

Cheers

By Woodchuck ATC
Mar 7, 2010

I drove back to Stanton to get the nearest signal for my crap cell phone at the Red. But then again, I still live in the era of the Betamax and 8 track players too.

By Dave Pegg
Mar 8, 2010

The iPhone app is a download. The app lives on your phone (or iPod touch), so it will work in any location, regardless of whether or not you have an internet connection.

The iPhones GPS works on satellite, so again all the real time navigation tools don't require an internet connection -- you just need to be able to see the sky...

Discounting the app for people who have the book is something we would love to do, but we are not sure it's possible. Currently, you can only buy an Apple app from the iTunes App store. The options for giving out discounts or coupons on the App store are very limited.

We believe we can do it the other way around, whereby a purchase of the app would give you a significant discount on the print book from our website. If we can figure out how to do this, we will!

By JamesW
Mar 8, 2010

"The iPhones GPS works on satellite, so again all the real time navigation tools don't require an internet connection -- you just need to be able to see the sky..."

I think the iPhone GPS is actually accomplished through a triangulation of cell phone towers not satellite driven...

By Chris treggE
Administrator
From: Madison, WI
Mar 8, 2010

@JamesW-- that was my understanding as well. Not a satellite GPS, but based on cell phone towers, so no signal = no coordinates.

Can't wait for the app Dave! Looks great!

By Dave Pegg
Mar 9, 2010

Thanks for your comments on the GPS. I'll look into it. My understanding was the iPhone does a quick and dirty location from cell phone towers, but given a little longer it will locate you to within 20 feet via satellite. I'll double check this and get back.

By Nick Wilder
Site Landlord
From: The Bubble
Mar 9, 2010

The iPhone 3G and the 3GS have a true GPS chip and will locate you without a cell signal. It is not particularly accurate compared to a dedicated GPS unit and if you use a GPS app continuously (such as MotionX GPS, which is excellent), you will kill the battery in about an hour.

The original iPhone only works via cell tower triangulation, requires a strong cell signal, and is only accurate to a couple hundred yards under the best circumstances.

By Dave Pegg
Mar 10, 2010

Thank you, Nick.
I'm not coding the app. Nor am I the best person to answer technical questions. Ask me about the user-interface or content, and I'm golden. Ask me HOW it works, and I'll tell you: "You hold it in your hand and turn it on!"

By COEveryman
Mar 10, 2010

Dave,

If you are willing to provide a "Buy Both" discount, it would be quite easy to do. After every iPhone App purchase, Apple sends a receipt to your email account which includes full documentation with, among other things: the name of the purchaser, price paid, and email address.

Those who purchase the app could forward this email to Wolverine Publishers and the person whose name is on the receipt could be allowed to buy one (1) hard copy of the book for a (hopefully significant :) discount.

Very easy.

Hope this helps, as I know many of us would like both, but are not going to have the cash to spend dramatically more than the retail price of a single brand new guidebook.

Cheers,
Jordan Hill

By Dave Pegg
Mar 10, 2010

Thanks Jordan.
Good feedback. This might work..

By Dave Pegg
Mar 20, 2010

Update: New River Gorge Rock Climbs is in stock. Orders are shipping from the website and going out to stores.

By Mike Mu.
Mar 23, 2010

I just received my copy. It is easily the best guidebook to the region.

By COEveryman
Mar 24, 2010

Quick question to Wolverine:

I noticed in my new New River Gorge guide that if you buy the NRG guide on the website, that you are offering $10 off the purchase of the RRG guide.

Will this apply for those of us who purchased the NRG guidebook online, or is only available to people who order with a specific form or something?

Hopefully Wolverine will be willing to extend that offer to all of us up purchased the book online.

By Woodchuck ATC
Mar 24, 2010

Just got mine yesterday in the mail. Fabulous book, similar to the RRG guide in layout, featured climbs, and interviews of fame. Lots of good reading in the weeks ahead before I get out there.