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By Chris Owen
Administrator
From: La Crescenta and Big Bear Lake
Oct 10, 2008

I got this warning ticket for parking in Site 6 and not paying for an overnight spot... what can I say? I was on the trail and hadn't left my car more than 10 minutes before. Something tells me that the Forest Service needs to spend some of its Adventure Pass revenue on a boulderers parking pullout.

FYI: I paid the $12, mainly because I really like this place and don't want to put out any bad vibes about climbers to the Forest Service.

By Tristan B
From: La Crescenta, CA
Jul 12, 2010

I just got 2 of those from the same guy, execpt I was in spot 7. One for Sat and one on Sun. I left the Sat one up on my window when I went back on Sun and the 2nd ticket said failure to occupy camp site. They aren't really tickets, its wierd, it says they might take action.

By Benjamin Chapman
From: Small Town, USA
Jul 1, 2011

FYI - it's a Notice of Non-Compliance. A 2nd choice for the USFS to solicit your $$ to waste. The Adventure Pass program is Voluntary. Congress has never authorized this program. Take the time to write Barbara Boxer, Diane Feinstein, and your Representative and complain. You pay enough taxes already and when/where has the USFS demonstrated that this $$ goes toward improving services in the forest. Those folks at Newcomb's or the ski areas don't display an Adventure Pass and they don't get cited!! It's not administered equitably so WHY support it by paying or buying an adventure pass?

By jt512
Administrator
Jul 1, 2011

Ben, that's false. The Adventure Pass program is not "voluntary." It's law. In its current form it was authorized by Congress (and signed by G.W. Bush) under the Federal Lands Recreation Enhancement Act. Under the Act, failure to display an Adventure Pass is subject to a $100 fine.

Fortunately, here in SoCal, the Forest Service rarely pursues the fine, and instead issues Notices of Noncompliance ("NONs"), which are basically "fix-it tickets," allowing you to buy the pass after the fact.

Jay

By Benjamin Chapman
From: Small Town, USA
Jul 2, 2011

Thank you, for the clarification, Jay.

By Adam Stackhouse
Administrator
Jul 14, 2011

IF one actually get's a citation about not displaying an "adventure pass" don't pay the fine. No warrant or registration hold ever materializes from this. The voluntary compliance (in paying the fine) is what they hope for.

Don't buy them.

By Tristan B
From: La Crescenta, CA
Jul 14, 2011

I just buy the Second Vehical passes for $5. Just borrow a friends year pass or just try and get one of the lost Sport Challet employees to sell you one.

By Brandon Bateman
From: Montrose, CA
Apr 19, 2013

FYI If you park in the Horse Flats campground an Adventure Pass IS NOT VALID. It is valid if you park in the day use area up the road or just outside the entrance gate to the campgrounds. An adventure pass allows you to park in the National Forest but not to camp in it. If you park in a campsite the rangers assume you plan on staying there so they expect you to pay. 12 bucks is totally worth it to climb such an amazing spot.

I always urge anyone to pay the fee. Its only twelve bucks and it gives the climbers a good rep. It bothers me so much to see people come in and abuse this oasis. Pay the fee to park in the campground and pick up your damn beer cans so this place can stay as amazing as it is.

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Submitted By: Chris Owen on Oct 10, 2008