I remember belaying John Rosholt (the Gambler) many times on this, for hours. Never knew how someone could hang upside down for so long.

I even belayed Bryan Becker on it one afternoon. At the time I didn't think that this would ever go!

I never knew Chuck, but he must have been a stud!

Scott, photoshop is beyond anything I can do. I'd be better off discussing the conflicts between Werner Heisenberg and Grete Hermann. Somewhere I have a real good slide of Charles actually at the lip the day before he nailed the route. It will emerge at some point.

No doubt about it Chuck Grossman was and is a studd!