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An unknown tourist scrambling around where he shouldn't be.

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By yak
Jun 13, 2010

If there is no established climbing, why is the person in the photo flaunting state park laws and jeopardizing climbing access in other areas where it is permitted? This picture should be removed.

By Chris treggE
Administrator
From: Madison, WI
Jun 13, 2010

That doesn't imply climbing is prohibited.

By yak
Jun 13, 2010

Per the MN Climbing Management Plan, all areas in state parks that are 'suitable for climbing' are designated restricted areas, and climbing in restricted areas is not allowed without a permit. Climbing permits are not issued for the park in the photo.

By Chris treggE
Administrator
From: Madison, WI
Jun 13, 2010

Meh, who knew. Aren't you just the picture of law-abiding drudgery then?

Kris or Glenn feel free to delete this photo if you find it somehow overly offensive like Mr. Mountainproject Hall Monitor here.

By yak
Jun 30, 2010

Hmm. Well, I guess this will just remain here then. Oh well, doesn't bother me; I'm off to bolt at Taylor's...

By Kris Gorny
Administrator
Jun 30, 2010

Hi yak, I appreciate your concerns but I am against censorship at Mountain Project (besides the obvious: obscenities, etc.). This photo shows someone who was more scrambling around than climbing in the park -- Chris happened to walk by and snap the picture. If you go to Goosberry on the busy weekend, you'll see plenty of tourists walking/scrambling on the ledgy rocks by the falls. I don't know the guy in the picture but he is hardly a climber (basketball shoes, no chalkbag, no harness).

Also, this picture does not promote "climbing" at Goosberry on Mountain Project -- we did not open a section for Goosberry Falls. What I gathered from Chris, the picture was intended as an ironic commentary, but to me it also recorded certain reality of that place and what you're actually likely to see while on a hike there. I get your sarcasm but posting a picture of some goofball is not equivalent to bolting at an established trad area. However, I would not delete your last comment simply because someone demanded it out of fear it could jeopardize access at Taylor's. As to why the goofball in the pic is violating the park rules -- I have no idea; you should address this question to the said goofball.

I agree that the initial caption was not the most fortunate. Hope the modified caption resolves this and puts the issue to rest.

By Tom Hanson
Oct 7, 2011

When climbing is outlawed only outlaws will climb.
Long live outlaws!

By Benjamin Chapman
From: Small Town, USA
Dec 3, 2012

Hmmmm......a very interesting discussion regarding the OVER-regulation of recreational activities by the state parks In Minnesota, but can we please get back to wildlife photos that have NO connection to climbing.

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An unknown tourist scrambling around where he shouldn't be.

Submitted By: Chris treggE on Oct 24, 2007