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Stashed Crash Pads in RMNP

Ken Cangi · · Eldorado Springs, CO · Joined Jul 2005 · Points: 620
Tea wrote:And can someone explain to me why people wear beannies with no shirt when it's hot out?
Because metro-sexual bouldering is the latest rage.
jonas f · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 0
Wade wrote:Go feed your Kids and shut up Tracy!
Are you the Wade of FRB rants on pad stashing?
Daniel Crescenzo · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 25

I think Wade has mommy issues.

jonas f · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 0

Not to be a total jerk, but I think he has some ego/anger management issues. Just look at the photos I found of him.

bittersweetclimbing.com/tea…

evolvesports.com/team.htm

Of the entire Evolv team, he is the only one in a line-up of dedicated and awesome climbers that looks like a complete jack ass. As for Bittersweet, do they know they have a troll (I mean that literally and figuratively) on the team.

BTW he supposedly works for Gary Neptune, can anyone confirm that?

J. Thompson · · denver, co · Joined Jan 2001 · Points: 1,425
jonas f wrote:Not to be a total jerk, but I think he has some ego/anger management issues. Just look at the photos I found of him. bittersweetclimbing.com/tea… evolvesports.com/team.htm Of the entire Evolv team, he is the only one in a line-up of dedicated and awesome climbers that looks like a complete jack ass. As for Bittersweet, do they know they have a troll (I mean that literally and figuratively) on the team. BTW he supposedly works for Gary Neptune, can anyone confirm that?
Well now looks like I have the opportunity to take care of my friends as well....
I know some folks who do alot with both of those companies. I'm ot talking "look at me I'm sponsored" I'm talking the "behind the scenes money people'.
So I guess maybe some phone calls and e-mails concerning what their sponsored athelete's are up to with the gear they are giving them is in order.
wade david · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 0

Hey everyone! I was notified by a friend that there is someone impersonating me here on the forums, there may be other wades in the climbing community. As for the pad stashing at Rocky Mountain N.P. I will not have any interaction with bring pads down but I will post a News Flash on the front page of my site (wadedavid.com) about the clean up dates. If you have not visited the site, it features New's, Video's, Women of Climbing, Guides, Wallpapers and more!

Wade David

Allen Hill · · FIve Points, Colorado and Pine · Joined Jun 2004 · Points: 1,410

Swimming in alpine lakes in RMNP is something the rangers get real mad about as well.

wadedavid.com/wdpages/waded…

your not helping your cause.

wade david · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 0

Allen I'm sure if you take another look at the photo you will notice she is not in the lake, my friend was laying in the sun on the rock, she got up and I took that great photo. It would be great if you could show some appreciation. I hate message boards like this, you can't ever please anyone.

I hope everyone else likes the site.

wade
david

Joey Wolfe · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jan 2007 · Points: 1,020

Then you might want to change the pic's caption from "Melissa swimming in Lake Haiyaha". It leads people to believe she is swimming. Weird huh?

Ternes · · Littleton, Co · Joined Nov 2006 · Points: 1,860

oh come on the guy just came to defend himself and let everyone know that he was not stashing pads or whatnot. this thread is not about him, theres no need for namecalling or slander. this thread is talking about a major issue in our community. lets not hijack the thread.

(ive been up for 20 hours i apologize if this post doesn't make sense)

back on topic? carry on.

stashed pads in rmnp GO!

Brad Brandewie · · Estes Park · Joined Apr 2001 · Points: 2,931

Allen
I was not aware that it's frowned upon to swim in lakes in RMNP? With the exception of Bear Lake, I believe it is acceptable to the rangers.

Have you had a different experience?

Ken Cangi · · Eldorado Springs, CO · Joined Jul 2005 · Points: 620
Allen Hill wrote:Swimming in alpine lakes in RMNP is something the rangers get real mad about as well. wadedavid.com/wdpages/waded… your not helping your cause.
Allen,

Pointing out Wade's bathing photo has nothing to do with stashing crash pads, so one can only assume that you are trying to stir up trouble.

In addition to your post sounding inflammatory, it is misleading. Swimming is allowed in all of the lakes in RMNP except for Bear Lake. This is common knowledge to most locals, and you are welcome to call the park if in doubt. Granted, the photo doesn't state whether she is standing in Bear Lake, although that is not the point.
j.jaeger · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Jul 2007 · Points: 300

cross post: a positive twist:

i believe it is now appropriate to start calling-out folks by name.

i'll start it off...

angie payne, kevin jorgenson, dave marquess, kelly mcbride, EZ, noah bigwood, eric decaria, lee payne, tj birchfield, chris shulte, and scott hahn each crush problems beyond the farthest reaches of my "physical imagination*".

however, based on memory and observation in rmnp and evans over the last four years, i have never seen them show up to a boulder without having carried in a pad that will accompany them home the same evening.

if i spent more time thinking about it, this list could easily expand. i'd encourage you to add names of folks setting a good example right at the cutting edge of our sport.

and, as far as the rest of us pad mules just going out and having fun on the rocks.... well, that list would crash this board.

[*new favorite nonsensicle phrase pulled from illogical weekend thread on FRB, subsequently removed in total by site admins.]

Buff Johnson · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Dec 2005 · Points: 1,145
j.jaeger wrote:... each crush problems beyond the farthest reaches ... and, as far as the rest of us pad mules just going out and having fun on the rocks.... well, that list would crash this board.
Until the Little Devil is sent without the use of pitons, gear, heel spurs, fixed pads, or other fanciful rope tricks; you cannot truly call yourself a crush master & must remain a mere pad mule.
Seth Murphy · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined Jun 2003 · Points: 195
Ternes wrote:oh come on the guy just came to defend himself and let everyone know that he was not stashing pads or whatnot. this thread is not about him, theres no need for namecalling or slander. this thread is talking about a major issue in our community. lets not hijack the thread. (ive been up for 20 hours i apologize if this post doesn't make sense) back on topic? carry on. stashed pads in rmnp GO!
Not to argue your point, cause i certainly agree with no namecalling or slander, but for the record WADE'S "darthwader" was still under the Dali boulder at EVANS. Wade, I hope you have since removed it.
wade david · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 0

Oh the darth wader pad, thats gone. It was gone 3 weeks ago!

Seth Murphy · · Fort Collins, CO · Joined Jun 2003 · Points: 195
wade david wrote:Oh the darth wader pad, thats gone. It was gone 3 weeks ago!
Much appreciated Wade. And by gone I hope you mean taken out, and not hidden better. But I'll just trust you did the right thing.

Thanks in advance, Seth
Avery N · · Boulder, CO · Joined Apr 2006 · Points: 650
wade david wrote:As for the pad stashing at Rocky Mountain N.P. I will not have any interaction with bring pads down but I will post a News Flash on the front page of my site (wadedavid.com) about the clean up dates.
wade david wrote: Oh the darth wader pad, thats gone. It was gone 3 weeks ago!
What blows me away is that there are individuals sponsored by bouldering companies, who have been stashing their pads at various locations, which in turn threatens access to those climbing areas.

Is it not obvious that bad publicity and potential closures to large, well-known bouldering areas puts their sponsor at risk, from a business perspective (bouldering gets a bad rap, people don't have places to boulder -> less bouldering gear is sold). If those companies are not absolutely thriving, then the chances of continuing to be sponsored have got dwindle amazingly fast, if you're not THE superstar.

If you are sponsored, then by either contributing to the problem, or by not helping to resolve the issue -- you're effectively putting your sponsorship at risk. Duh! Try thinking about the whole picture.

I've never bought a crash pad, but I'm guessing the instructions don't say anything about "Don't leave your pad. Pack it in, Pack it out" Does anyone know differently?

It seems the bouldering companies and sponsors would be the first to want to correct the situation, to save their own livelihood. These companies and those are who sponsored should get their act together fast.

-Avery
Jimn Seiler · · North Platte, NE · Joined May 2004 · Points: 440

I'm pretty sure that the lake the girl is in is Lake Hiyaha. I use to go to that lake a bunch around 1994, 95 and play around on all the car size to house size boulders up there, fishing was actually pretty good back then too.

wade david · · Unknown Hometown · Joined Aug 2007 · Points: 0

I took the pad out and is now at home.

Guideline #1: Don't be a jerk.

Colorado
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