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By joshf From: missoula, mt Mar 10, 2008
Are those bolts seriously 3 feet apart? Has the world gone to sport climbers?
By 1Eric Rhicard Mar 11, 2008
It is called the Brighter side of Darkness! It is also the start of the crux which is only 7 feet off the ground.
By Jimbo Mar 17, 2008
Have led this route joshf??
Remember, grasshopper, one must always lead a route before one comments on it. Feel free to skip that second bolt when your on the sharp end, my friend.
By A.P.T. From: Truckee,Ca Mar 17, 2008
I don't believe there will be a bolt removal thread for that 2nd bolt. It's pretty obvious that the Law's of Gravity would not be in a person's favor if they slipped here, besides it look's like the crux to me.I didn't lead this route yet or know if I will ever be able to as some old injuries are really sneaking up on me.
Those that do the least seem to complain the most. It's a free Country after all.
By joshf From: missoula, mt Apr 10, 2008
I'm not for removing the bolts, that generally seems like a worse idea than leaving it.
By joshf From: missoula, mt Apr 14, 2008
Again, not for removing the bolts just commenting on how close they look...I was not intending to start a removal thread it was more a reference to the changing ways of people putting up new routes.
By jbak Apr 14, 2008
Josh it makes sense to have the bolts closer together right off the deck on routes that have low cruxes. Higher up you can spread them out. These guys know what they are doing. Just observe and learn.
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The Viking on the opening crux moves. Stick clip the first bolt or have good spotters. Note the angle of the wall in the background. Red Dwarf 5.12 trad and Viking Soared 5.11 trad climb.