Comments: Many people are confusing LOTP with The Outsiders (thanks to the original posting of this route). The Outsiders is the route that is adjacent to 5GBs - not LOTP! The pic on this page that the climber is on is that of The Outsiders. LOTP is one route right of The Outsiders & 2 routes right of 5GBs. LOTP is every bit a 10a. I wouldn't argue with a 10a/b rating. LOTP is significantly harder than 5GBs.