Comments: I also think this route is more challenging than the tie die route. Especially clipping the chains.... You have to work your way around the corner onto all slopers. Unless you are super tall! Once you have it on tope rope, try the roof between the two climbs, it starts out easy, then when you get to the edge of the roof, its a looong reach to a small hold, then its over. Just be careful you dont pull out the loose big block underneath the overhang!!